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Sidney Eley's avatar

I just love your thoughtful analysis, seeing influences that I missed in my past educational background. No artist is an island, even Picasso.

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Giselle's avatar

I loved reading this George, thank you for this!

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George Bothamley's avatar

Much appreciated, Giselle. I’m glad to know you enjoyed it.

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Monica P.'s avatar

Only seeing these two together would I have made the connection. Thank you for your valuable insights.

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Nancy Hesting's avatar

What an amazing comparison. Thanks so much.

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Monday Morning ARTe's avatar

Outstanding! Never knew about that connection before. Thanks. Great way to start the week.

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Logan Darrow's avatar

Fascinating!

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Mia Breeze's avatar

In the early version of Ingres’ portrait of Madame Moitessier (bonus painting), is that the fingers of a hand sticking out from behind her black dress on the bottom left? Is there a story about that hand, if it is indeed a hand?

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George Bothamley's avatar

That is a really great observation. And honestly, I don’t know the answer.

Funnily enough, the seated version apparently was originally supposed to include Moitessier’s children - but Ingres eventually painted them out, as they would not sit still long enough to paint.

So my initial thought was maybe this was a similar situation, if it is a hand.

But also, as Melanie suggests, it could just as easily be explained as a glove too. And admittedly, I highly doubt Ingres would have made the error of leaving a stray hand in there by accident.

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Wells Of Goodness's avatar

I’m thinking it’s a glove.

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Gerry Draper's avatar

Thank you. I like them both, but I am surprised at the strong emotional reaction I had to Picasso's work. That is the first time I had seen that particular painting.

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George Bothamley's avatar

I felt that way when first seeing them together in real life too. I’d expected to favour Ingres’ work - but actually, Picasso’s version was really mesmerizing.

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Peter C. Meilaender's avatar

Wonderful connection(s)! Thank you.

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Chidanand M's avatar

Thank you George for bringing out wonderful stories, which were otherwise difficult to get.

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Jerry Foote's avatar

It seems that Picasso, by replacing the fan with the book, has also opened the fan.

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søren k. harbel's avatar

Excellent piece! Thank you!

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George Bothamley's avatar

Much appreciated. Glad you enjoyed it.

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Mao Zhou's avatar

His facility with hands is remarkable. And I finally have a paid subscription. Too good to miss out.

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George Bothamley's avatar

Totally agree - and thanks so much for choosing the paid subscription too. I really appreciate your support.

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Mao Zhou's avatar

It’s honestly a no brainer for me when I sat down and realized how much I have learned and appreciated.

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Harley King's avatar

Wow! Thank you. I love this piece of art history. Van Gogh paid homage to Millet in one of his last paintings.

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George Bothamley's avatar

Glad you enjoyed it - and great knowledge about van Gogh too. I may do another article on this again in the future, as there are a lot of really brilliant examples of great artists painting other artists’ work.

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Mike Isaac's avatar

The NG put these two pictures side by side in one their mini exhibitions 2-3 years ago. All you say and more. The catalogue is still available.

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George Bothamley's avatar

Yes, I visited that exhibition a couple of times myself. It was amazing to see them both together in real life like that. I bet Picasso would have been absolutely thrilled with it.

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Holly Polich's avatar

Wow, that drawing by Ingres is smashing. His graphite sketches have so much more life and personality than his paintings, even when copied from someone else's work.

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George Bothamley's avatar

I must admit, I do enjoy his paintings too - but I tend to agree, his drawings are absolutely on a different level! Without a doubt, one of the great draughtsmen of all time.

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